i think it began for Larry vs Harry in 2006 when Larry made a bike for harry….then Hans was a carpenter and he wanted a bike, so they made a bike that would fit a carpeters box…at least thats one version of the story of LvsH..been around for a longtime, i met Hans around a fire in 2014..nice chap….a good fire….long time ago..sorted bike that make fashion rather than follow it.